Is global warming good for plants?

Another week and another incorrect news article about climate change. I’m starting to enjoy this – reading something, checking to see whether it’s correct (isn’t this what the sceptics are supposed to do?) and discovering that actually, the facts are wrong, biased, misrepresented or misquoted.

The article in question is in the Wall Street Journal and is written by an adjunct professor of engineering – Harrison Schmitt – and professor of physics at Princeton – William Happer. William Happer is also Chairman of the Marshall Institute, a right-wing organisation which receives funding from Exxon Mobil.

The article, In Defense of Carbon Dioxide, says global warming has paused over the last decade. Peter Hadfield has debunked this myth on his Youtube channel in “no warming for 15 years“, so I won’t bother addressing that. The second claim is that there’s very little correlation between CO2 and global temperature. Peter Hadfield also addresses this in detail in “The evidence for climate change WITHOUT computer models or the IPCC“. I want to limit my discussion to CO2 and plant growth, so if anyone is interested in these other claims, I recommend Peter Hadfield’s videos.

The main gist of the article is that carbon dioxide will be good for plants. The idea behind this is that plants use carbon dioxide (CO2) in the air for photosynthesis to make energy and carbohydrates. In simple terms, more CO2 -> increased plant growth -> increased agricultural productivity -> more food for animals to eat.

The article also says that plants will require less water and so will be better able to survive dry conditions. From my understanding, the logic goes like this: plants have tiny holes in their leaves called stomata through which CO2 enters but water is lost. Plants can control these stomata: they open them to increase CO2 uptake but close them to reduce water loss. As atmospheric CO2 rises, stomata close thus reducing the amount of water that is lost.

This all sounds very straightforward and sounds like a nice benefit of global warming, but how accurate is it?

Biologists ought to know more about this than physicists and engineers and yesterday I discovered – through a family member who works in the field – that they’ve been conducting experiments on just this topic. There’s an excellent summary of this research online in, Effects of Rising Atmospheric Concentrations of Carbon Dioxide on Plants.

The experimentation is done using a method called FACE: free-air carbon dioxide enrichment in which plants are grown outside and exposed to higher than current levels of CO2. Observations are then made about plant growth and plant chemistry and physiology. This enables the growth of plants to be observed in open environments rather than in laboratories and so hopefully provides more accurate results.

What did they find?

Yes, higher CO2 levels do enable most plants to grow faster and this did result in higher agricultural productivity for crops such as wheat, rice and soybeans. But there is a downside: protein concentrations in the tissues of these plants decreases and so too do minerals of nutritional importance including calcium, magnesium and phosphorus. So while crop yields might increase, the quality of the crop decreases and so animals feeding on these crops will need to eat more of them to compensate for the loss of nutrients.

Not all plants experience faster growth with increased CO2 concentrations. Some types of plants, called C4 plants, show no increase in crop yields when CO2 levels are raised. This group of plants includes important crops like maize (corn), sugar cane, sorghum and millet. While the number of C4 plant species compared with C3 species is low, the area they occupy on Earth is large. The enormous tropical grasslands of Africa and South America are C4 plants and these will not benefit much from elevated CO2.

The plants that do respond positively to elevated CO2, a group known as C3 plants, also respond negatively to increases in temperature. Since there is a strong correlation between CO2 and global temperature, the corresponding rise in temperature as a result of rising CO2 is not good news for those plants.

The article also suggests the water requirements of plants will decrease, enabling them to better survive dry conditions. FACE experiments show water use by plants does decrease with elevated CO2, and in some cases by as much as 20%. So on this issue, Happer and Schmitt are correct, but they fail to address a consequence of this which is higher soil moisture levels and increased runoff, both of which will have consequences for the water cycle on which entire ecosystems depend. I’m not saying whether this is good or bad, just that its a little naive to suggest this is going to increase agricultural output. The story is more complicated than that.

The growth of plants is inordinately complex and depends on a great deal more than just CO2 concentrations in our atmosphere. But one thing is certain: rising CO2 is going to have a huge impact on the plants on which we and other animals depend.  The consequences are tangled up in a web of changes that include growth rate, plant physiology, the water cycle and the structure of plant communities: most of which is completely ignored by Happer and Schmitt.

Source:

Effects of Rising Atmospheric Concentrations of Carbon Dioxide on Plants

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37 responses to “Is global warming good for plants?”

  1. wottsupwiththatblog Avatar

    Very interesting. I do find it amazing that people who are scientists can make claims about something outside their own area without actually checking whether or not any research has been done to see if their claims are credible. Hard not to conclude that they are driven more by their ideology than by the scientific evidence.

    1. Rachel Avatar

      I agree. I can’t imagine they’d take it very kindly themselves if some “mcexpert” made some public claims about their own areas of expertise without reading the research and then getting quite a few facts wrong.

  2. Rachel Avatar

    It has been pointed out to me that some crop yields diminish with higher temperatures. Corn and soybeans are particularly sensitive to heat stress – http://agcrops.osu.edu/drought-resources/high-temperature-effects-on-corn-and-soybean

  3. MikeM Avatar
    MikeM

    Perhaps mentioning also that increasing carbon dioxide is bad for shellfish. Concentration of dissolved carbon dioxide in sea water increases in equilibrium with increasing atmosphere concentration, resulting in the sea becoming more acidic. This will tend to dissolve the shells of crustaceans and molluscs, and the skeletons of coral. So eventually, plenty of wheat and rice, but no more prawns or oysters.

    Effect of increasing sea temperature is also detrimental to most ocean life as it reduces concentration of dissolved oxygen in water. The effect is small but sufficient to cause fish stocks to move, seeking cooler water. It may also increase areas of “dead” ocean, where nutrient run-off from land causes brief algae blooms, which consume all dissolved oxygen.

    1. Rachel Avatar

      Yes, very true. I’m thinking of writing about the impact on fisheries next.

      1. pendantry Avatar

        In that case, you might want to watch The End of The Line. Then again, you might not, because it’s pretty depressing finding out how badly we’ve screwed up in our husbandryrape of the seas.

        Good work on the ‘CO2 is good for plants’ debunking. In these increasingly discouraging times, I find a ray of hope in seeing so many people prepared to take the time to try to counter the incessant flow of misinformation from the denialosphere.

  4. Rachel Avatar

    Thanks, Pendantry. The film looks good.

    It’s a shame that all the myths doing the rounds on the web get so much more publicity than the debunking of them. It only takes a few minutes to propagate a myth but it takes a great deal of time to debunk it.

  5. Eve Spence Avatar
    Eve Spence

    Peter Hadfield’s YouTube presentation is out of date. See Met Office 2013 Press Release.

    1. Rachel Avatar

      You have not given me a link but I assume that you have checked the Met Office website yourself to verify any claims made by the Daily Mail or on blogs that warming has stopped. That is what a sceptic does: a sceptic does not blindly believe stuff reported by the Daily Mail, blogs and other news articles but attempts to verify them first. I *did* go to the Met Office site and this is what I found on the Met Office News Blog for 10/1/2013:
      “Mr Delingpole then inaccurately states that the Met Office has conceded ‘there is no evidence that ‘global warming’ is happening’. We have not said this at any point.”
      source: http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/addressing-the-daily-mail-and-james-delingpoles-crazy-climate-change-obsession-article/

      Peter Hadfield debunks in another video – Global warming has stopped? Again??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbn1rCZz1ow

      If the Met Office has said somewhere that global warming has stopped, I can’t find it. Can you please provide a link?

      1. Eve Spence Avatar
        Eve Spence

        The Met Office will show that the rise in temperature is much less than your alarmists have predicted. From what I am reading it is anything but catastrophic. Who on earth is Peter Hadfield anyway? Why should I give what he says any credibility?

  6. Rachel Avatar

    Peter Hadfield provides sources for what he says so if you doubt any of it, you can easily go and check yourself. This is what you should have done when you read on a blog or in the Daily Mail that a Met Office Press said there had been no warming for 8,9,10,16 or whatever years. I have gone to the Met Office press releases and they said no such thing.

    And what exactly did the alarmists predict? Back in 1981, the apparent alarmist, James Hansen, predicted in a paper published in Science that the probable warming would be between 0.5 – 0.75 by the year 2000. It turns out that this was anything but alarmist and is actually conservative. Anyone can go and read his paper which is available for free online – http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~davidc/ATMS211/articles_optional/Hansen81_CO2_Impact.pdf
    It’s not that hard to verify things for yourself. This is what a true sceptic does.

    And here’s another prediction from a climate scientist that is spot-on – http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/mar/27/climate-change-model-global-warming

    1. Eve Spence Avatar
      Eve Spence

      Ah, you’re cherry picking again, and becoming aggressive – perhaps I should have signed it “Doug”.

  7. Douglas Spence Avatar
    Douglas Spence

    Hello,
    Seeing my name was introduced,I will add my 2 bobs worth.If Peter Hadfield is reputable because he provides sources for what he says,then Anthony Watts meets your criterion perfectly.
    On the unreliability of Climate Models,see the post on WUWT,” Climate Models getting worse than we thought,” citing the recent peer reviewed paper K.L.Swanson,”Emerging Selection bias in large scale climate simulations”,Geophysical Research Letters, 2013
    As Anthony notes ,this paper adds to the hundreds of other peer reviewed papers demonstrating the abject failure of climate models.
    Rachel when you go to the weak response in the Met Office press release (14/10/12),they say they don’t admit David Rose’s point of no warming for 17 years and then admit “warming” of 0.03 degrees Celsius from 1997 to August 2012, and then suggest they could get some (unspecified) greater warming from 1999 to 2012. The real admission from the Met is that their latest computer predicts “warming” from 1997 to 2017 of 4 one hundredths of a degree Celsius in 20 years .That is not statistically significant in terms of Peter Hadfield’s lecture.
    The Met has not had the courage to use the term “stopped”, but climate scientists of all views are using the term “hiatus”and giving various reasons for it,principally sulphate aerosols and natural variability.The Met Press Release above asserts that there have been periods of non-warming and cooling in the last 150 years but for this to continue for periods longer than 15 years is “unusual”.The unusual is already upon us but this admission will have to wait until the CAGW hypothesis is disproved by the passage of “at least 30 to 40 years”, according to Rajendra Pachauri of the IPCC in his recent interview in the Australian.

    .

  8. Rachel Avatar

    If the Met Office has announced there has been no global warming for x number of years – thereby invalidating Peter Hadfield’s video – then I will accept that I’m wrong. I’m not particularly clever but I have a computer with an internet connection, so I’ve gone to their website and I cannot find any claim to support this.

    It looks to me like the Met Office have been misquoted by the Daily Mail and guess what, they admit it, on their own website – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2259942/The-crazy-climate-change-obsession-thats-Met-Office-menace.html. You have to scroll all the way down to the bottom which is disappointing, but they say,
    “James Delingpole’s views misrepresent the Met Office’s reputation for world-class weather and climate forecasting and research (Mail).”
    The Met Office says it does not fully address all the issues they had, but are pleased that some steps have been taken – http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/setting-the-record-straight-in-the-daily-mail/

    You might be keen to know that Peter Hadfield also debunks Al Gore in “The 800-year lag unravelled” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ3PzYU1N7A

  9. Rachel Avatar

    Miles Allen writes in a published paper from March 2013 (Test of a decadal climate forecast – http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v6/n4/full/ngeo1788.html):

    “Early climate forecasts1
    are often claimed to have overestimated
    recent warming. However, their evaluation
    is challenging for two reasons. First,
    only a small number of independent
    forecasts have been made. And second,
    an independent test of a forecast of the
    decadal response to external climate
    forcing requires observations taken over
    at least one and a half decades from
    the last observations used to make the
    forecast, because internally generated
    climate fluctuations can persist for several
    years.”

    He then assesses one of the first forecasts (the 1999 one in this link – http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/mar/27/climate-change-model-global-warming) and the conclusion is that even if the temperatures for the decade 2007-2016 remain no higher than for 2002-2011, the forecast is not falsified at the 10% level. This means that observations lie within the 5-95% uncertainty range. Temperatures would have to remain the same as those from 2002-2011 until the decade 2017-2026 before the forecast is falsified.

  10. Eve Spence Avatar
    Eve Spence

    You still haven’t answered my question. What qualifications does Peter Hadfield possess? Just because he provides good sources….is he some nice chap down at the pub with a posh accent?

    1. Rachel Avatar

      If there’s anything you doubt, check it for yourself. I have found him very reliable, unbiased and self-correcting.

      1. Rachel Avatar

        I should also add the most important qualifier of a good source here: he reads the scientific literature. Not just the abstract, but the entire paper and he doesn’t pick out sentences that misrepresent the paper.

  11. Eve Spence Avatar
    Eve Spence

    Is he the former Australian athlete who competed in the decathlon at the Olympics and is now a journalist?

    1. Rachel Avatar

      Why don’t you watch the video and find out!

  12. Eve Spence Avatar
    Eve Spence

    Oh, got it, he’s a journo on The Guardian (aka The Grauniad)of all papers! Of course! Isn’t that Mr Monbiot’s paper too?

    1. Rachel Avatar

      Wrong again. I can only find two articles he has written for the Guardian in 3 years.

      If anyone else wants to know who he is, then watch the video. Eve obviously hasn’t.

  13. Eve Spence Avatar
    Eve Spence

    He’s a journo, with a geology degree, and self-promoter with an upper class English accent who says he is not an expert. Why should I believe what he says? He has no particular expertise.

    1. Rachel Avatar

      You don’t have to “believe” what he says. You can verify it.

    2. guthrie Avatar
      guthrie

      That sounds like Monbiot. Are you sure you are getting your straw men straight?

  14. Douglas Spence Avatar
    Douglas Spence

    Rachel
    Eve got in first but I have read Peter Hadfield’s CV.A Blogger and “former Radio 4 superhero.”(according to a breathless summary at RationalWiki). A (former?) journalist with a geology degree.
    In his inconclusive debate with Lord Monckton on WUWT,(where else)he says neither of them are experts ,so I will take him at his word, and ignore both!
    I have a geologist friend who gave an address in June 2009 which I attended.While his views are diametrically opposed to Hadfield’s ,I don’t accept all he says but nor do I slavishly accept what Potholer spruiks.When I check Potholer, I cannot “verify” what he says,at all.Some, Yes but others ,no.I can see he religiously follows the CAGW line of the UN IPCC,and Dr. Hansen.
    Many of his assertions I find extremely controversial e.g the alleged historical correlation between CO2 emissions and Temperature movements.When Gore said this in his movie,a judge of the High Court in England ,Justice Burton , found this to be ” in error “, in Dimmock v. Minister for Education.

  15. Rachel Avatar

    Potholer54 debunks Al Gore in this clip – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ3PzYU1N7A
    and in others on his channel. He is a scientific journalist and has been reporting accurately on the science for decades.

    Go to his youtube channel. The video “Evidence for climate change without computer models and the IPCC” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ6Z04VJDco
    has all its sources contained in a separate video – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO8WrE63__I

    1. pendantry Avatar

      The video “Evidence for climate change without computer models and the IPCC”
      Riiiight… give me a while, I’m off to find evidence for gravity being an incorrect theory, no doubt there’s someone somewhere who’s researched this and can prove it conclusively as long as the direct impirical evidence can be dismissed out of hand.

      Somehow I don’t think I’ll find that nugget at, for instance, ‘The Consensus Project‘.

      1. pendantry Avatar

        Oops. Just realised what you were saying. And the nonsense I gave as a result of misunderstanding.
        I will now go and write out 100 times: “must engage brain before fingers”.
        Sincere apologies…

      2. pendantry Avatar

        @Rachel I think it’s worth clarifying that I got confused by this:

        “Potholer54 debunks Al Gore in this clip – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ3PzYU1N7A

        … the phrase ‘debunks Al Gore’ plays into the hands of those who would have us believe that everything that Al Gore says about global warming is bunkum — which it most definitely is not; he just made a couple of mistakes that are regurgitated time and again (to ‘prove’ how wrong Al’s whole position must be).

        I’m just downloading a copy of a film, one that begins by saying

        … Nick Miller … has been trained by Al Gore to present an updated version of his ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

        I’m wondering whether the update admits what climate change deniers seem unable to: having made a mistake.

      3. Rachel Avatar

        Thanks for the movie Pendantry. The point I wanted to make was that someone who finds and presents mistakes from both sides of a debate is likely to be an unbiased source of information. This is exactly what potholer54 has done. I thought potholer54 was rather clever with the way he began that video as well, by getting the Great Global Warming Swindle to point out the mistakes and then he went on to address the mistakes in the Great Global Warming Swindle.

        I agree that being able to understand your own mistakes and correct them adds to your integrity. It means that your ultimate goal is the truth. As far as I’m aware, the film The Great Global Warming Swindle has not bothered to admit and address its mistakes like Al Gore has done.

        The biggest bullshitter of all is Christopher Monckton and not once have I heard him admit his mistakes and correct them and they are many. Potholers54 has a series of videos devoted just to him called Monckton Bunkum – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbW-aHvjOgM. They were all terribly entertaining.

      4. pendantry Avatar

        Ah, yes, Lord Monckton. I like to refer to him as the prevaricating peer. I shall certainly watch the entertainment you offer here! 🙂

      5. Rachel Avatar

        I found it laugh-out-loud funny.

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  17. Rachel Avatar

    Monckton Bunkum series

    Part 1 – Global cooling and melting ice – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbW-aHvjOgM
    Part 2 – Sensitivity – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTY3FnsFZ7Q
    Part 3 – Correlations – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpF48b6Lsbo
    Part 4 – Quotes and misquotes – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3giRaGNTMA

  18. Rachel Avatar

    Part 5 – What, MORE errors, my lord? – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRCyctTvuCo

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